from United States on 12/07/2020 - 20 Count Aida white This is just to make people aware of the stiffness of this fabric. After washing this 3 times, I have given up hope. It is as stiff as board. I know that it will soften as I work with it but... I stitch in hand and I was hoping to use it for Rosewood Manor's "And a forest grew". Since this is a large piece, I decided to use something else. Good news for ornament making in the future! The problem is not with 123Stitch. The problem is so much sizing in the fabric. I also got the ecru in 20 count and it is better!